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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jul 5, 2011 4:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Riot in Cellblock #9

For completists and fans of the odd guest appearance, this is an exciting TJI. I've been wanting to hear this one for a long time, despite its reputation ...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-04-27.sbd.boswell.smith.114094.flac16

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Jul 6, 2011 3:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

That was great, I never knew that the Desad and the Beach Boys ever had any pro sessions together before The Day On The Green show in Oakland.The Beach Boys were so good this day that Bill Graham let them go an extra 20 minutes or so from the timing chart you could see if you were close enough.This I do remember, at least the Dead were equal to or better this day unlike the first show w/ the Who.They were not ,and the Who played rings around them and when the Dead ended w/ JBG,the WHO were called for an encore and they also finished w/ JBG W/ Keith Moon singing it for the most part.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jul 6, 2011 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

Hmmm you bring some tantalizing info. Which Day on the Green show was that? Did they play together again?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 6, 2011 11:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

I think he's talking about this show:
http://lostlivedead.blogspot.com/2011/05/june-8-1974-oakland-coliseum-stadium.html

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Jul 6, 2011 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

What a fantastic article. This is bringing back mega memories and indeed it was the DOG show at OAkland w/ the
Beach Boys and Commander Cody doing his boogie woogie piano gig was a great day. Until reading the article I did not know that more shows were held at old Kezar Stadium which I guess preceeded my coming to the bay area .The one and only
Kezar Show I did see was the SNACCK concert for I believe was a benefit for the S.F. school distric.It had many named acts and culminated w/ I believe was billed as Jerry Garcia and Friends (I might be wrong on the billing title)basically your typical GD line-up plus Merle Saunders and others joining in.Sorry for not being more specific but I'm going on pure memory here.

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Jul 6, 2011 11:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

To answer your question did they ever play together again I'm not sure of that but I did see the Beach Boys as
the headline act in Oakland Auditorium.If my memory serves me today they used all white gear .Amps keyboards everything was done in white.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 6, 2011 8:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

I haven't changed my mind any about this show since I made these comments a couple of years back.

http://www.archive.org/post/234343/04-27-71-so-nearly-one-of-the-greats

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 5, 2011 4:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

where's charlie,rasta, earl? I believe this was his holiest of grails

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jul 5, 2011 7:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

aren't there other sources in circulation? i have a vinyl boot of this show that i got in the early '80s, but don't think i listened to it much, never cared for the beach boys at all

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jul 6, 2011 7:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

I really like the "Serchin'", Pig, with the BBs doing background . And the "Muskogee" is a great answer to the song by having these folks do it ("We don't take our trips on LSD"). I'm sure the Beach Boys were going for some hip cred, at this point, by playing with the Dead, but I think the results are fun, and fine .

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 6, 2011 9:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

Funny ... Btw I've been listening to 7/2/71, and there's a guy who keeps shouting "Johnny B Goode!" Like, before every song. (Which in itself is funny enough.) But then I flipped on this Okie from Muskogee and ... out comes Johnny B Goode. Hah! He got his wish!

Okie from Muskogee is labeled Help Me Rhonda. Haven't heard the whole show yet, so not sure where the mislabeling starts.

edit: Turns out I Get Around is really Help Me Rhonda (with GD); Help Me Rhonda is Okie from Muskogee; Okie is Johnny B Goode, which is the ever-popular Tuning; and Tuning is Sing Me Back Home, which is UJB, which is Lovelight. See what happens when the GD and Beach Boys share the stage?



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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 6, 2011 9:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

Same thing happens on 4-29-71. A woman starts yelling for Johnny B. Goode in the first set and continues to do so before several songs. I often wondered if they ended up playing it for her at the end of the show.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 6, 2011 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

Yeah, it makes me wonder ... um, WHY? You want the show to end or something? But then I suppose there are tunes I'm fond of that not everyone else is ecstatic about. So, well, glad he got his wish (and his soulmate the Johnny B Goode Woman got her wish, too.)



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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 6, 2011 11:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

Actually, Johnny B Goode probably WAS a favorite of a lot of concertgoers at the time. The Dead put it on their live album for a reason.... One guy whose first Dead show was 12/12/72 said his favorite song of the evening was - you guessed it - Johnny B Goode! And listening to a '74 show the other day, I heard repeated calls for El Paso....not a song I'd request, but it was clearly a hit with audiences. And didn't W Tell here, who attended 6/17/75, say that the big highlights of the evening were - wait for this - BIODTL and Me & My Uncle?
Another forumite remembered: ""When you are a youngster, the rockers are the ones that stick with you, they get your attention... The first time I saw them (10/14/76) it was the Around that got me, not the long Dancin>Wharf Rat (my buddy fell asleep!) The next concert (2/26/77), I was impressed with the US Blues and the short Weir tunes, not the Playing>Wheel>Playing, or the Help>Slip>Frank... Didn't even know I had heard a 'Help>Slip' till I got the tape!"

We've discussed here before how '70s audiences tended to be much more taken by the Dead's boogie numbers than by any of the jams.... But keep in mind, these are the same audiences who hoped a Pigpen Lovelight would never end!

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jul 6, 2011 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

Around & Around was a big crowd-pleaser on the East Coast and also one of my favorites from the first few shows that I saw ... and I arrived on scene about 5 minutes before they cut that song down to just a lame-o intro. I feel lucky to have seen the handful of full versions that I did.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 6, 2011 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

It occurs to me that right around that time ('71-ish) there was a real upswell of interest in 50s music. I remember it cuz I was a kid and there'd be radio specials of 50s rock that I used to tape religiously -- whole long hyper-promoted "50s Days" on the popular rock station -- and there was also a rash of hits that had that boogie 50s sound: Rockin Pneumonia, Crocodile Rock ... American Pie came out ... Sha Na Na was on the radio ... Bette Midler's Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy was even more retro. That was like a "new thing" (or so it seemed to me) in the early '70s.

So if Johnny B Goode was particularly popular with audiences, it also fit with a trend.

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Poster: BornEasement Date: Jul 6, 2011 8:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Riot in Cellblock #9

Even Merle himself sang this song with tongue in cheek... "we don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee" from a man who apparently smokes a joint a day in his old age.